Friday, February 23, 2018

other countries think we're crazy


"I don't much like the idea of police having guns, but a country where ordinary people have better guns than police officers makes absolutely no sense"
------------- Reader Comment, The Independent


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     This week I was thinking about that Whitney Houston song, "Greatest Love of All" where it starts out, "I believe the children are our future..." because of the school shootings in our country, and those high school students from Parkland, Florida, speaking out and saying that we adults have not dealt with this problem.

     It occurred to me:  do we all say (or think) that we care about the children in our society, but in reality we don't give a damn?  I think we care.  Or -- I thought we cared.  

I think I believe we care.  

I think I thought we knew we were supposed to care... damn it, "I believe the children are our future!  Teach them well and let them lead the way!  Show them all the beauty they possess inside!"...

     Ah, the 90s power ballad.

     But do we really, seriously, actually care about -- children, and about The Future?  Or are we just jive talkin' when we make that claim?

     Are we treating the environment and the planet in a way that coincides with caring about The Future and the children and their children and grandchildren?

     Does truly caring about American innocents match up with creating a society that's awash in war weapons?  Who benefits from the Gun Overload?  (Hint:  follow the money.)



     The Independent, a British newspaper, ran a story about Scot Peterson, the security official at the Parkland high school in Florida who was outside the school for four minutes while the shooting took place inside.
     Commenters argue whether the policeman should have gone into the school instead of staying outside.




Reader Comments:


------------ Here's a question for you.  Have you ever had someone shoot at you?  Until you have, don't take your courage under fire, or others' for granted....
     The debate here isn't this one man's failure, or guns, or any single issue, it is the failure of government all the way up the line to act in the best interest of those who elected them, not those who paid for their campaign.


----------- Did he have a handgun against a machine gun.  It would have been suicide to go in.

---------------- There has to be a fall guy to apportion blame to, to protect the gun manufacturers and 'advertise' that the solution is more, bigger, faster firing guns. ...

Rather than actually going to the problem:  crazy people with easy access to high caliber weaponry.


--------- Some maniac with an AR15 is spraying bullets around and law enforcement cant do anything.  Yet Trump thinks the answer is to arm Miss Crabtree the 62 year old librarian.


-------- How about armed cleaners?

----------------- What happens to gun sales after every school massacre?  What happens to the sales of the weapon used in the murders?  

What action has the government taken to restrict the sale of military-style weapons in all that time?  

You could just as well argue that these school massacres are planned and executed by the gun manufacturers.

------------------------- It's money from the NRA that these horrible politicians take that prevents sanity to prevail, the only way to stop it would be to raise more money than the NRA give them to get the law changed, they have no principles.

--------- Running into an unknown situation with only a handgun is not heroic, it is stupid.

     If their plan is that one lightly armed man should take on an unknown number of attackers armed with AR-15's then their system is broken and those in charge incompetent.


---------------------- ...Allowing a country to be flooded with weaponry of military standard, is just asking for people to be killed.

     ...Yanks are looneys.

------------- ...the NRA logic is flawed, skewed and distorted beyond recognition of the term logic.  It is presented simply to make as much money from death and destruction as possible.
     Truly an evil organisation.


--------- ...As long as there is the free availability of semi-automatic weapons in the US, there will be many more mass shootings.  This is as certain as night follows day.  Not having free access to semi-automatic weapons would not cause any real hardship to anyone.

---------------- The solution is very simple.  Ban assault rifles.  In Australia they banned all semi-automatic long guns after a mass shooting, and there have been none since.

--------------------------- SWAT unit in every school next?

     Puts it into perspective when compared to UK policing where unarmed officers confront terrorists, yet armed US police stand by and watch [yet still manage to shoot unarmed people].

The country's a madhouse.



--------------------- Give everyone but the mentally ill their own grenade, and then everyone will be too scared to blow anyone else up because then the person who's just been blown up will use their grenade to...oh wait a minute, that doesn't work.  America, home of the idiot

--------------- Trump and the Republicans -- ducking and diving the real issue just to protect their money supply..  Launderers and fakers the lot of them.

--------------- If there was such an incident in UK would the police think it reasonable for a single ordinary copper with a gun to go in and fight it out with a crazy killer with a semi-automatic assault rifle?  Or would the police use a heavily armed, highly trained, squad of specialist policemen?

----------------- The British police would just go in with their truncheons and harsh language... it would all be over by elevenses

--------------- He fell down the stairs, y'honour...  
Right lads, it's Beer'o'clock!!

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----------------- The debate here isn't this one man's failure, or guns, or any single issue, it is the failure of government all the way up the line to act in the best interest of those who elected them, not those who paid for their campaign.


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